Showing posts with label conferences. Show all posts
Showing posts with label conferences. Show all posts

Thursday, June 10, 2010

TSK/Open Source Conference

I have to say, when someone who's attended conferences sets out to create a conference, things tend to turn out pretty well. Aaron's OMFW (2008) turned out that way, and Brian's Open Source conference (9 June) was another excellent example.

There were seven presentations, all of high caliber (well, six of high caliber, and mine! ;-) ) and two time-slots for open discussion. I like the shorter talks (unless there's some kind of hands-on component), but that also requires the presenters to develop their presentations to meet the time constraint. For example, Cory had some great stuff (I know, because I was sitting next to him during earlier presentations when he developed it!) in his presentation, but had to skip over portions due to time.

Rather than walking through each presentation individually, I wanted to cover the highlights of the conference as a whole. In that regard, there were a couple of points that were brought up with respect to open source overall:

Tool Interoperability - Open source tools need to be able to interoperate better. During my presentation, I mentioned several times that due to the output provided by some tools and the format that I need, I use Perl as the "glue". Maybe there's a better way to do this.

Tool Storehouse - There are a number of open source (and free) tools out there that are very useful and very powerful...but they're out there and not accessible from a single location. It's difficult to keep up with so many things in forensics and IR, following blogs and can be too much. Having a centralized location where someone can go and search for information, kind of like an encyclopedia, would be more beneficial...maybe something like the Forensics Wiki.

Talking to a number of the other folks attending the conference, it was clear that everyone was at a different level. Some folks develop tools, other use and modify that tools, still others use the tools and submit bug reports or feature requests, and other simply use the tools. One of the benefits of these conferences is that all of these folks can meet, share thoughts and opinions, and discuss the direction of either individual tools, or open source in general. Some folks are very comfortable sharing ideas with a larger audience, and others do so on a more individual basis...conferences like this provide an environment conducive to both.

I think one of the biggest things to come out of the conference is that open source tools come from a range of different areas. Some come from academic research projects, others start as a need that one person has. Regardless of where they come from, they require work...a lot of work. Take memory acquisition and analysis...lots of folks have put a lot of effort into developing what's currently available, and if anyone feels that what's available right now isn't sufficient, then support the work that being done. I think AW covered that very well; the best way to get your needs met is to communicate them, and then support those who are doing the work. Learn to code. Don't code? Can you write documentation? How else can you provide support? Loaning hardware? Providing samples for analysis? There's a great deal that can be done. We all have to remember that for most of this, the work is hard, such as providing a layer of abstraction for a very technical and highly fluid area of analysis (i.e., memory) or providing an easily accessible library for something else. It's hard work, and very often done on someone's own time, using their own resources. I completely agree with AW...folks that do those things should get recognition for their good works. As such, organizations (and individuals) that rely heavily on open source (and free) tools for their work should be offering some kind of support back to the developer, particularly if they want some additional capabilities.

On the organizational side of things...rather than's always good to see a conference where some of the things that you don't like about conferences are improved upon. For example, the attendee's badge wallet had the complete schedule listed on a small card right there in the back of the wallet. That way, you weren't always looking around for the schedule. Also, there were plenty of snacks, although I haven't yet been to an event like this where the coffee was any good. ;-(

Overall, this was a great conference, with lots of great information shared. One of the best things about conferences is that they bring folks together...folks that may "know" each other on the Internet or via email, but haven't actually met, or haven't seen each other in a while. Great content generates some great conversations, and the folks that share end up sharing some great ideas. I'm really hoping to get an invite to the next one...which means I should keep working with open source tools and "going commando"...

Tuesday, February 02, 2010

A Conference By Any Other Name...

...would still smell as sweet.

In a somewhat lame attempt at paraphrasing Willie the Shakes, I wanted to point out that it's that time of year again when folks start looking at training and conference options for the year, and I'm no different. The DoD CyberCrime 2010 conference finished up last week, so I'm keeping an eye on my RSS feeds for attendees posting on their thoughts and experiences, and what feedback there may be. I'm also going to be looking for presentations (and feedback on them) to be posted ...some conferences don't provide that sort of thing, but authors (like Jesse) may.

This got me to thinking...what is it that I look for in a conference? While I've thought about it, I've never really written down what those thoughts are, and then stepped back and taken a look at them. In the past, I've looked forward to conference attendance because of the hype and the titles of the presentations (and the chance to get out of the office, of course), and been sorely disappointed when the presentations ended up being about wicca or being more of a blue comedy routine. Consequently, no amount of hype would get me to go (or recommend going) after that.

For example of the title of a presentation being out of whack with the actual content, when Network Associates purchased Secure Networks and their Ballista product (gawd, dude, how old am I??), I attended a presentation by Art Wong entitled, "The Art of Incident Response". Oddly enough, the presentation had nothing whatsoever to do with incident response.

I think that most people attend conferences for two basic reasons...quality talks, and networking. Okay, the unspoken third reason applies, too..."boondoggle". But for the most part, I think that most conference attendees go to see presentations that could directly and immediately impact what they do, and to meet up with others in the community.

From my own perspective, I generally tend to look for conferences that are going to have some impact on what I do...either because I'm going to see presentations that will impact what I do, or because I can meet and talk to other examiners, as well as potential customers. Something else I also look for is whether or not Syngress is going to have a bookstore at the conference, although this usually isn't the primary reason for going, nor is it a deal breaker.

I attended part of one day of Blackhat DC today, mostly to see Nick talk about TrustWave's numbers. Now, on the surface, you might think that this doesn't impact what I do so much, as I'm no longer in the PCI game. However, the numbers themselves are interesting, and Nick talked about not only the incidents that TW had responded to, but also the scans they'd run. This gave a bit of a different perspective but interesting nonetheless. I also talked to Colin Sheppard for quite a while, and also to Richard Bejtlich (more on that conversation in another post).

So my brief attendance (cut short by an impending snow storm...last week, the weather man said "light dusting" and we got 6+ inches of snow!!) to BHDC was fruitful. In addition to the professional networking, some of the things I heard sparked ancillary, Jamie, I wasn't taking notes on Nick's presentation, my furtive scribbling was me jotting down ideas...

Monday, August 11, 2008

Open Memory Forensics Workshop

This is the first time this workshop has been put on, but I have to say that it was a rousing success right off the starting blocks! An excellent format, excellent schedule, and excellent speakers. More importantly for me, there was a great deal of information and discussion that was either immediately practical, or would lead to something practical and useful in a hands-on manner within a relative short period.

A couple of the big-brain take-away thoughts that came out of this 1/2 day workshop were:

There seemed to be agreement amongst the assembled panel (as well as the attendees) that open-source is the way to go with tools like memory parsing tools. Open-source allows for verification of your findings and how various items were found, transparency, as well as extensibility.

When performing memory acquisition and analysis (parsing, really), what are the essential or pertinent objects/items/elements? What parts of, say, an EPROCESS structure are absolutely essential for determining if you're looking at an actual EPROCESS structure?

The subject of anti-forensics came up as well, and a thought was that if the bad guys know about what the good guys are doing, and know what important elements have been identified simply by looking at the open-source code, then they can easily come up with ways to combat those tools and techniques, and obfuscate what they're doing. This has in part to do with the discussion of essential/critical structure elements. For example, many of the tools that do a brute-force linear scan through a memory dump looking for EPROCESS structures look for specific elements of the structure itself in order to identify, as close as possible, a legitimate structure. Someone could obfuscate what they're doing by discovering which of those elements they can modify in order to avoid detection. Without identifying these critical elements...elements that cannot change without crashing the system...then this relatively new area of memory analysis is more open to anti-forensic and obfuscation techniques. However, Jesse pointed out something very important...a preponderance of anti-forensics and obfuscation (i.e., the over-abundance or relative lack of artifacts that an examiner would expect to see) activity should be a clear indicator to the examiner that something is amiss.

Also, Jesse used the term "tool marks" in his presentation...from what I saw, it sounded like "artifacts" to me, albeit specific to a particular "tool". This can be an important tool (I need to discuss this interesting topic w/ Jesse some more...) in that it can be a very useful data reduction tool to assist the examiner in identifying unusual things. For instance, something that came out of the DFRWS2008 Forensic Rodeo was that an unusual string in memory may indicate the use of TrueCrypt.

Overall, the quality of the presentations and speakers, as well as the panels, made for an excellent workshop! My hat's off to AAron and everyone else who put their time and effort into this event! It was great to finally meet folks like Moyix, Andreas, and have a chance to listen to their thoughts, and thank them. I hope to see this workshop again next year!

Thursday, August 07, 2008

Upcoming Events

It seems that one of my partners-in-crime and I will be attending a couple of events together this year...stay tuned for some good times!

OMFW - Open Memory Forensics Workshop, 10 Aug 2008, Baltimore - AAron's putting on a great workshop on the subject, which is pretty cool, considering he's one of the guys who's creating the absolute bleeding edge in this area. There are some big names, not only in this field, but in the field of forensic analysis, who will be attending. So, bring your cameras and dollar bills, and see if you can get guys like Mike...excuse me, Dr. Michael...Cohen to sign various body parts! ;-) Be sure to say hi to Jesse, too!

DFRWS - Digital Forensics Research Workshopt, 11/13 Aug 2008, Baltimore - DFRWS is always a great conference, or so I've been told. This will be my first (hopefully not my last) time attending this conference, and the lineup of speakers and presentations is very impressive. I'm particularly looking forward to presentations regarding Registry analysis, such as Tim Morgan's Recovering Deleted Data from the Windows Registry.

Don't forget to drop by the Wharf Rat for the reception on Monday, and enjoy a little hot monkey love!

SANS Forensic Summit - 13/14 Oct 2008, Las Vegas - Rob Lee is really making 2008 the year for forensic conferences with this one! There is already an awesome list of speakers, which makes me wonder why I'm speaking! ;-) Hey, if you can't find something interesting to listen to, come watch me mutter my way through something about the Windows Registry! This summit is turning out to be less of a speaker's conference, and more of a practitioner's workshop...some of the topics that are going to be addressed are along the lines of what works and what doesn't, from the folks who are doing the do!

These are THE MUST ATTEND events for 2008...for no other reason than the fact that The Cory Altheide will be there! Hey, that's why I'm going!