And that may be another reason why black hats are flocking to the cloud."Going to a company as big as Google and saying 'Can we get an image of that server,' that's a pretty high barrier," he said.
I'd suggest that that would have to do with the implementation. Cloud is being sold as the next big thing...but what is it? Well, it depends on who you're talking to.
Something else that's been making its rounds is spilled COFEE...Dark Reading picked it up, as well. Folks, the only reason this is getting the press it is, is because this was originally released only to law enforcement. Other than that, it's really not that big of a deal. Hogfly weighed in on this, as well...he apparently felt so strongly about this...dude, his last post was in August! ;-)
FTK 3 has "explicit image detection" capabilities (PDF here). This looks to be very useful for finding images, but I'm not sure that that's really the issue at hand these days...I may be wrong. I mean, I thought that it wasn't so much a matter for LE to find the images (although the coolness factor might be that in the video, Erika Lee uses the term "trained", implying a neural network of some kind...), but it was more a matter of addressing the Trojan Defense. I mean, once you find the images, you have to then demonstrate that the user in question intentionally downloaded and viewed them, and possibly shared them. This is were browser/web history, P2P, and Registry analysis come into play. Know anyone who knows anything about "Registry analysis"?
Speaking of which...
I ran across this AP article regarding the "Trojan Defense" hosted at the Fox News site. This is an interesting article to me, because this is something I've been discussing with LE for a number of years now. One of the key aspects of the analysis performed can be seen here:
A technician found child porn in the PC folder that stores images viewed online.
For most examiners, this refers to the browser cache; for IE, the Temporary Internet Files subfolders. Now, I'm not about to disparage any analysts skills or capabilities...all I'm going to do is point some things out. First, those TIF subfolders aren't created by IE, they're created by the use of the WinInet APIs, which IE uses. Now, this means that another app that uses the same APIs would also create the subfolders, and if it were running in the context of the logged on user, the folders would be created in the user's TIF directory.
Where did I get this? Well, I got a little help from my buddy Robert "Van" Hensing...check out his blog post from 2006. This was valuable to me, as I had conducted an exam for a customer, and one of the oddities I found was that the Default User's web history (I was using ProDiscover in my examination, and there's an extremely useful function to search for and parse web history...) had been populated. I tracked that back to a copy of wget.exe running with privileges elevated to System level...but I digress.
So, it's entirely possible to get just about anything on a system and make it look like the user did it. Why do that? Perhaps to discredit the user or law enforcement...I don't know, I'm not this guy.
My point is that we can't simply look at the folder the files are located in and their date/time stamps, and think we've got it wrapped up. There are a number of other places on the system that we can look...Prefetch folder, Registry, etc...in order to answer the question of did a Trojan do it? before it's asked.