Writing Books...and whatnot...
As I've mentioned, Windows Registry Forensics is nearing completion (I'm reviewing the proofs now...) and according to Syngress, will be available in January. When something like this is coming out, as with WFA 2/e, the biggest question I tend to get is, "Did you cover the differences/changes in Windows versions?"
Most times, I'm taken aback by this question. I was at the CSI 2010 conference recently, and went by the Syngress table. I talked to someone who was looking at a copy of WFA 2/e, and once he realized that I was the author, he asked me that question. In order to get a better idea how to answer that question, I turned it around and asked him, "...like what?" To that, I got a blank stare in response.
I think...and please, correct me if I'm wrong here...but the real, underlying question is, what are the new sources and locations of potentially valuable data?
In many ways, this is something of a loaded question...because, yes, there are some things that are different between versions of Windows, and in particular between the venerable Windows XP and the shiny new Windows 7. But I could sit here for the better part of the day talking about the differences and never, not once, hit on anything of value to you or to your examinations. Some file paths and Registry locations have changed...while some haven't. Some file formats have changed, while new ones have been added. Some of the new file types in Windows 7...for example, sticky notes...are a bit questionable when it comes to their potential value as evidence.
My suggestion to the community is that if you want to see this kind of thing, start talking. What good does it do to stand there asking "...did you cover all of the changes?" AFTER the book has been written and published, and you're holding it in your hands (with your thumb on the table of contents)? Seriously. If you've got a concern, ask someone. I think you'll be surprised...if nothing else, that you're not the only person with that question. Sometimes, that's all it takes...
Registry Analysis
Speaking of working on the book (the proofs, really), one of the things that really intrigues me about Registry analysis is...well...Registry analysis.
One of the most valuable uses for Registry analysis that I've found is that you can go into the Registry and see historical access to a range of resources...USB removable storage devices (thumb drives, digital cameras, etc.), network shares, remote systems (via RDP or VNC), files that no longer exist on the system, etc. In many cases, you can tie a good deal of this activity to a user, as well as to a specific time frame. You can see what a user searched for on the system.
I've performed examinations of systems where there was a question regarding digital images...we'll just leave it at that (most of us know where I'm going with this...). Someone had claimed that the images had been put on the system by malware, and yet the Registry clearly showed not only access to the files in question, but also showed an association with a specific viewing application, and time stamps indicating when the files had been accessed. These time stamps from the Registry corresponded to file system metadata, as well as metadata from Prefetch files associated with the viewing application(s) (think multiple data sources for timelines). The Registry also indicated access to files no longer on the system, as well as files that were on other media.
I'm really looking forward to the book coming out for two reasons...one is to see it and hold it. The other is to see what folks think, in hopes that the content will spur discussion (what else is needed) as well as a greater move toward recognizing the Registry as a valuable forensic resource.
FIRST
I recently attended a portion of a FIRST technical colloquium put on by IBM. Thanks to Richard Bejtlich for sponsoring me so I could attend.
I saw David Bianco (I'd swear that David is Cory Altheide's fraternal twin...) from Richard's team at GE talk about what they were doing, and the biggest take-away for me was the fact that they collect what's practical, as opposed to everything that's possible. They've got a phased approach to their network monitoring coverage, which has been prioritized; much like the Great Wall, they don't so much look at what's coming in as what's trying to go out of their infrastructure in the first phase of their rollout. This clearly demonstrates considerable thought having been put into their approach, taking into account what needs to be covered, staffing levels, etc., and coordinating all of these resources.
In part, this is something of a breath of fresh air when applied to the IR/DF communities. Too often, I think, we tend to take an "I need EVERYTHING possible" approach, and end up losing site of our goals. I really liked what David said about getting everything practical, as I can really see how it applies to the IR/DF field. Have you ever seen someone who will arrive on-site as a responder and state their strategy is to image everything? By the time you're done imaging, the customer is no longer interested in your findings, as they're likely fined or out of business.
Another thing that came out of the discussion surrounding the presentation was that they have a tiered approach for their analysts, with a progressive career path, so that analysts coming in at a particular level have goals that they can strive for in order to progress to the next level. This is a different view than what I had seen when I got into the security industry in 1997, and I think that its an excellent approach.
Again, thanks, Richard. I was saddened to not see Eoghan Casey at the colloquium.
The Windows Incident Response Blog is dedicated to the myriad information surrounding and inherent to the topics of IR and digital analysis of Windows systems. This blog provides information in support of my books; "Windows Forensic Analysis" (1st thru 4th editions), "Windows Registry Forensics", as well as the book I co-authored with Cory Altheide, "Digital Forensics with Open Source Tools".
Showing posts with label FIRST. Show all posts
Showing posts with label FIRST. Show all posts
Wednesday, November 03, 2010
Sunday, June 20, 2010
Who's on...uh, at...FIRST?
I attended the FIRST conference in Miami last week. My employer is not a member of FIRST, but we were a sponsor, and we hosted the "Geek Bar"...a nice room with two Wiis set up, a smoothie bar (also with coffee and tea), and places to sit and relax. One of my roles at the conference was to be at the Geek Bar to answer questions and help sign folks up for the NAP tour on Thursday, as well as mingle with folks at the conference. As such, I did not get to attend all of the presentations...some were going on during my shift at the Geek Bar, for example.
Note: Comments made in this blog are my own thoughts and opinions, and do not necessarily reflect or speak for my employer.
Dave Aitel's presentation hit the nail on the head...defenders are behind and continue to learn from the attacker. Okay, not all defenders learn from the attacker...some do, others, well, not so much. Besides Dave's really cool presentation, I think that what he said was as important as what he didn't say. I mean, Dave was really kind of cheerful for what, on the surface, could be a "doom-and-gloom" message, but someone mentioned after the presentation that Dave did not provide a roadmap to fixing/correcting the situation. I'd suggest that the same things that have been said for the past 25 years, the same core principles still apply...they simply need to be used. My big take-away from this presentation was that we cannot say that defensive tactics, or the tactics, techniques, and strategies used by the defenders have failed, because in most cases, they haven't been implemented properly, or at all.
I really liked Heather Adkins' presentation regarding Aurora and Google, and I think that overall it was very well received. It was clear that she couldn't provide every bit of information associated with the incident, and I think she did a great job of heading off some questions by pointing out what was already out there publicly and could be easily searched for...via Google.
Vitaly Kamluk's (Kaspersky/Japan) presentation on botnets reiterated Dave's presentation a bit, albeit not in so many words. Essentially, part of the presentation was spent talking about the evolution of botnet infrastructures, going through one-to-many, many-to-one, C2, P2P, and a C2/P2P hybrid.
Unfortunately, I missed Steven Adair's presentation, something I wanted to see. However, I flew to Miami on the same flight as Steven, one row behind and to the side of his seat, so I got to see a lot of the presentation development in action! I mean, really...young guy opens up Wireshark on one of two laptops he's got open...who wouldn't watch?
Jason Larsen (researcher from Idaho National Labs) a good talk on Home Area Networks (HANs). He mentioned that he'd found a way to modify firmware on power meters to do such things as turn on the cellular networking of some of these devices. Imagine the havok that would insue if home power meters suddenly all started transmitting on cellular network frequencies. How about if the transmitting were on emergency services frequencies?
The Mandiant crew was in the hizz-ouse, and I saw Kris Harms at the mic not once, but twice! Once for the Mandiant webcast, and once for the presentation on Friday. I noticed that some parts of both of Mandiant's presentations were from previous presentations...talking to Kris, they were still seeing similar techniques, even as long as two years later. I didn't get a chance to discuss this with Kris much more, to dig into things like, were customers against which these techniques used detecting the incident, or was the call to Mandiant the result of an external third party calling the victim organization?
Richard Bejtlich took a different approach to his presentation...no PPT! If you're read his blog, you know that he's been talking about this recently, so I wasn't too terribly surprised (actually, I was very interested to see where it would go) when he started his time at the mic by asking members of the audience for questions. He'd had a handout prior to kicking things off, and his presentation was very interesting because of how he spent the time.
There were also a number of presentations on cloud computing, including one by our own Robert Rounsavall, and another on Fri morning by Chris Day. It's interesting to see some folks get up and talk about "cloud computing" and how security, IR, and forensics need to be addressed, and then for others to get up and basically say, "hey, we have it figured out."
Take Aways from FIRST
My take aways from FIRST came from two sources...listening to and thinking about the presentations, and talking to other attendees about their thoughts on what they heard.
As Dave Aitel said, defenders are steps behind the attackers, and continue to learn from them. Kris Harms said that from what they've seen at Mandiant, considerable research is being placed into malware persistence mechanisms...but when talking about these to some attendees, particularly those involved in incident response in some way within their organizations, there were a lot of blank stares. A lot of what was said by some was affirmed by others, and in turn, affirmed my experiences as well as those of other responders.
I guess the biggest take away is that there are two different focuses with respect to business. Organizations conducting business most often focus on business and not so much on securing the information that is their business. The bad guys have a business model, as well, that is also driven by revenue...they are out to get your information, or access to your systems, and they are often better at using your infrastructure than you are. The drive or motivation of business is to do business, and at this point, security is such a culture change that its no wonder that victims find out about so many intrusions and data breaches after the fact, due to third party notification. The road map, the solutions, to addressing this have been around for a very long time, and nothing will change until organizations start adopting those security principles as part of their culture. Security is ineffective if it's "bolted on"...it has to be part of what businesses do...just like billing and collections, shipping and product fulfillment, etc. Incident responders have watched the evolution of intruder's tactics over the years, and organizations that fall victim to these attacks are often stagnant and rooted in archaic cultures.
Overall, FIRST was a good experience, and a good chance to hear what others were experiencing and thinking, both in and out of the presentation forum.
Note: Comments made in this blog are my own thoughts and opinions, and do not necessarily reflect or speak for my employer.
Dave Aitel's presentation hit the nail on the head...defenders are behind and continue to learn from the attacker. Okay, not all defenders learn from the attacker...some do, others, well, not so much. Besides Dave's really cool presentation, I think that what he said was as important as what he didn't say. I mean, Dave was really kind of cheerful for what, on the surface, could be a "doom-and-gloom" message, but someone mentioned after the presentation that Dave did not provide a roadmap to fixing/correcting the situation. I'd suggest that the same things that have been said for the past 25 years, the same core principles still apply...they simply need to be used. My big take-away from this presentation was that we cannot say that defensive tactics, or the tactics, techniques, and strategies used by the defenders have failed, because in most cases, they haven't been implemented properly, or at all.
I really liked Heather Adkins' presentation regarding Aurora and Google, and I think that overall it was very well received. It was clear that she couldn't provide every bit of information associated with the incident, and I think she did a great job of heading off some questions by pointing out what was already out there publicly and could be easily searched for...via Google.
Vitaly Kamluk's (Kaspersky/Japan) presentation on botnets reiterated Dave's presentation a bit, albeit not in so many words. Essentially, part of the presentation was spent talking about the evolution of botnet infrastructures, going through one-to-many, many-to-one, C2, P2P, and a C2/P2P hybrid.
Unfortunately, I missed Steven Adair's presentation, something I wanted to see. However, I flew to Miami on the same flight as Steven, one row behind and to the side of his seat, so I got to see a lot of the presentation development in action! I mean, really...young guy opens up Wireshark on one of two laptops he's got open...who wouldn't watch?
Jason Larsen (researcher from Idaho National Labs) a good talk on Home Area Networks (HANs). He mentioned that he'd found a way to modify firmware on power meters to do such things as turn on the cellular networking of some of these devices. Imagine the havok that would insue if home power meters suddenly all started transmitting on cellular network frequencies. How about if the transmitting were on emergency services frequencies?
The Mandiant crew was in the hizz-ouse, and I saw Kris Harms at the mic not once, but twice! Once for the Mandiant webcast, and once for the presentation on Friday. I noticed that some parts of both of Mandiant's presentations were from previous presentations...talking to Kris, they were still seeing similar techniques, even as long as two years later. I didn't get a chance to discuss this with Kris much more, to dig into things like, were customers against which these techniques used detecting the incident, or was the call to Mandiant the result of an external third party calling the victim organization?
Richard Bejtlich took a different approach to his presentation...no PPT! If you're read his blog, you know that he's been talking about this recently, so I wasn't too terribly surprised (actually, I was very interested to see where it would go) when he started his time at the mic by asking members of the audience for questions. He'd had a handout prior to kicking things off, and his presentation was very interesting because of how he spent the time.
There were also a number of presentations on cloud computing, including one by our own Robert Rounsavall, and another on Fri morning by Chris Day. It's interesting to see some folks get up and talk about "cloud computing" and how security, IR, and forensics need to be addressed, and then for others to get up and basically say, "hey, we have it figured out."
Take Aways from FIRST
My take aways from FIRST came from two sources...listening to and thinking about the presentations, and talking to other attendees about their thoughts on what they heard.
As Dave Aitel said, defenders are steps behind the attackers, and continue to learn from them. Kris Harms said that from what they've seen at Mandiant, considerable research is being placed into malware persistence mechanisms...but when talking about these to some attendees, particularly those involved in incident response in some way within their organizations, there were a lot of blank stares. A lot of what was said by some was affirmed by others, and in turn, affirmed my experiences as well as those of other responders.
I guess the biggest take away is that there are two different focuses with respect to business. Organizations conducting business most often focus on business and not so much on securing the information that is their business. The bad guys have a business model, as well, that is also driven by revenue...they are out to get your information, or access to your systems, and they are often better at using your infrastructure than you are. The drive or motivation of business is to do business, and at this point, security is such a culture change that its no wonder that victims find out about so many intrusions and data breaches after the fact, due to third party notification. The road map, the solutions, to addressing this have been around for a very long time, and nothing will change until organizations start adopting those security principles as part of their culture. Security is ineffective if it's "bolted on"...it has to be part of what businesses do...just like billing and collections, shipping and product fulfillment, etc. Incident responders have watched the evolution of intruder's tactics over the years, and organizations that fall victim to these attacks are often stagnant and rooted in archaic cultures.
Overall, FIRST was a good experience, and a good chance to hear what others were experiencing and thinking, both in and out of the presentation forum.
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